Legislature(1999 - 2000)

04/26/1999 05:08 PM House FSH

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        HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON FISHERIES                                                                                    
                   April 26, 1999                                                                                               
                     5:08 p.m.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bill Hudson, Chairman                                                                                            
Representative Fred Dyson                                                                                                       
Representative John Harris                                                                                                      
Representative Carl Morgan                                                                                                      
Representative Harold Smalley                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jim Whitaker                                                                                                     
Representative Mary Kapsner                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
OTHER MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Alan Austerman                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Board of Fisheries                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Grant J. Miller - Sitka                                                                                                    
     Virgil L. Umphenour - Fairbanks                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Dan Kelly Coffey - Anchorage                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION HELD OVER                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 2                                                                                               
Relating to the sovereignty of the State of Alaska and the                                                                      
sovereign right of the State of Alaska to manage the natural                                                                    
resources of Alaska.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
(* First public hearing)                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS ACTION                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
No previous action                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
GRANT J. MILLER, Appointee                                                                                                      
   to the Board of Fisheries                                                                                                    
P.O. Box 6097                                                                                                                   
Sitka, Alaska  99835                                                                                                            
Telephone:  (907) 747-7870                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the Board of                                                                     
                       Fisheries.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
VIRGIL L. UMPHENOUR, Appointee                                                                                                  
   to the Board of Fisheries                                                                                                    
2400 Davis Road                                                                                                                 
Fairbanks, Alaska  99701                                                                                                        
Telephone:  (907) 456-3885                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the Board of                                                                     
                       Fisheries.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN                                                                                                        
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Capitol Building, Room 434                                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska  99801                                                                                                           
Telephone:  (907) 465-4956                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Asked Mr. Umphenour questions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
GARY HOLLIER                                                                                                                    
P.O. Box 2965                                                                                                                   
Soldotna, Alaska  99609                                                                                                         
Telephone:  (907) 262-5785                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JOHN HOPKINS                                                                                                                    
P.O. Box 343                                                                                                                    
Cordova, Alaska  99574                                                                                                          
Telephone:  (907) 424-7632                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointment of                                                              
                     Virgil Umphenour.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SUE ASPELUND, Executive Director                                                                                                
Cordova District Fishermen United                                                                                               
P.O. Box 939                                                                                                                    
Cordova, Alaska  99574                                                                                                          
Telephone:  (907) 424-3447                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on behalf of Cordova District                                                                    
                     Fishermen United in opposition to the                                                                      
                     appointment of Virgil Umphenour.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JOHN RENNER                                                                                                                     
P.O. Box 756                                                                                                                    
Cordova, Alaska  99574                                                                                                          
Telephone:  (907) 424-7563                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointment of                                                              
                     Virgil Umphenour.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
LAIFE WEATHERS                                                                                                                  
[address not provided]                                                                                                          
Telephone:  (907) 424-3745                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointment of                                                              
                     Virgil Umphenour.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT HEYANO                                                                                                                   
P.O. Box 1409                                                                                                                   
Dillingham, Alaska  99576                                                                                                       
Telephone:  (907) 842-1053                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of Dan Coffey, Grant                                                                  
                     Miller and Virgil Umphenour to the Board of                                                                
                     Fisheries.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN VANHATTEN, Member                                                                                                         
Tanana Chiefs Conference                                                                                                        
122 First Avenue                                                                                                                
Fairbanks, Alaska  99701                                                                                                        
Telephone:  (907) 452-08251                                                                                                     
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointment of                                                              
                     Virgil Umphenour on behalf of the TCC.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RALPH SEEKINS, President                                                                                                        
Alaska Wildlife Conservation Association                                                                                        
1605 Old Steese Highway                                                                                                         
Fairbanks, Alaska  99701                                                                                                        
Telephone:  (907) 459-4000                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of Dan Coffey, Grant                                                                  
                     Miller and Virgil Umphenour to the Board of                                                                
                     Fisheries.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DREW SCALZI, Representative                                                                                                     
Kenai Peninsula Borough Assembly                                                                                                
41685 Redoubt Circle                                                                                                            
Homer, Alaska  99603                                                                                                            
Telephone:  (907) 235-6359                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries on behalf of                                                              
                     the Kenai Peninsula Borough Assembly.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
STEVE VANEK                                                                                                                     
P.O. Box 103                                                                                                                    
Ninilchik, Alaska  99639                                                                                                        
Telephone:  (907) 567-3470                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JOHN MCCOMBS                                                                                                                    
P.O. Box 87                                                                                                                     
Ninilchik, Alaska  99639                                                                                                        
Telephone:  (907) 567-3334                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
BILL GRANGER                                                                                                                    
P.O. Box 1162                                                                                                                   
Soldotna, Alaska  99669                                                                                                         
Telephone:  (907) 262-1284                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
RION VANEK                                                                                                                      
P.O. Box 251                                                                                                                    
Ninilchik, Alaska  99639                                                                                                        
Telephone:  (907) 567-7394                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
STEVE TVENSTRUP                                                                                                                 
4928 Beaver Loop                                                                                                                
Kenai, Alaska  99611                                                                                                            
Telephone:  (907) 283-3482                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JOE MALATESTA, SR.                                                                                                              
P.O. Box 318                                                                                                                    
Clam Gulch, Alaska  99568                                                                                                       
Telephone:  (907) 567-3419                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHUCK ROBINSON                                                                                                                  
P.O. Box 3519                                                                                                                   
Soldotna, Alaska  99669                                                                                                         
Telephone:  (907) 262-9164                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DON FOX                                                                                                                         
P.O. Box 2971                                                                                                                   
Kodiak, Alaska  99615                                                                                                           
Telephone:  (907) 486-4738                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointment                                                                 
                     of Virgil Umphenour.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SKIP BOLTEN                                                                                                                     
P.O. Box 2852                                                                                                                   
Kodiak, Alaska  99615                                                                                                           
Telephone:  (907) 486-4099                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointment                                                                 
                     of Virgil Umphenour.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
AL GEISER                                                                                                                       
  Speaking for VIRGINIA ADAMS                                                                                                   
P.O. Box 315                                                                                                                    
Kodiak, Alaska  99615                                                                                                           
Telephone:  (907) 486-7559                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Read a letter from Virginia Adams in                                                                       
                     opposition to the appointment of                                                                           
                     Virgil Umphenour.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE KNOWLES                                                                                                                   
P.O. Box 873206                                                                                                                 
Wasilla, Alaska  99687                                                                                                          
Telephone:  (907) 745-4965                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support to the appointments                                                                   
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD GRAHAM                                                                                                                  
P.O. Box 871495                                                                                                                 
Wasilla, Alaska  99687                                                                                                          
Telephone:  (907) 376-2137                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support to the appointments                                                                   
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JAMES CHESBRO                                                                                                                   
P.O. Box 1093                                                                                                                   
Palmer, Alaska  99645                                                                                                           
Telephone:  (907) 376-5433                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support to the appointments                                                                   
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
BOB MARTINSON                                                                                                                   
900 Iriquois Drive                                                                                                              
Wasilla, Alaska  99654                                                                                                          
Telephone:  (907) 373-2627                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the reappointment                                                               
                     of Virgil Umphenour.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
KORY BLAKE                                                                                                                      
P.O. Box 1706                                                                                                                   
Palmer, Alaska  99645                                                                                                           
Telephone:  (907) 376-8325                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the reappointment                                                               
                     of Virgil Umphenour.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
RON WILSON                                                                                                                      
P.O. Box 760                                                                                                                    
Willow, Alaska  99688                                                                                                           
Telephone:  (907) 495-7700                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support to the appointments                                                                   
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT HALL                                                                                                                     
  Representing the Houston Chamber of Commerce                                                                                  
P.O. Box 871906                                                                                                                 
Wasilla, Alaska  99687                                                                                                          
Telephone:  (907) 373-6555                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support to the appointments                                                                   
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ERIC JORDAN                                                                                                                     
103 Gibson Place                                                                                                                
Sitka, Alaska  99835                                                                                                            
Telephone:  (907) 747-6743                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support to the appointments                                                                   
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
TIM SMITH, President                                                                                                            
Nome Fishermen's Association                                                                                                    
P.O. Box 747                                                                                                                    
Nome, Alaska  99672                                                                                                             
Telephone:  (907) 443-5352                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the reappointments                                                              
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour to the Board                                                               
                     of Fisheries on behalf of the Nome                                                                         
                     Fishermen's Association.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ERIC OSBORNE                                                                                                                    
P.O. Box 1738                                                                                                                   
Nome, Alaska  99762                                                                                                             
Telephone:  (907) 443-7256                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CARL ROSIER, Representative                                                                                                     
Alaska Outdoor Council                                                                                                          
8298 Garnet Street                                                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska  99801                                                                                                           
Telephone:  (907) 789-9117                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support to the appointments                                                                   
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DEAN CURRAN                                                                                                                     
P.O. Box 42                                                                                                                     
Cordova, Alaska  99473                                                                                                          
Telephone:  (907) 424-7642                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the reappointment                                                               
                     of Virgil Umphenour.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DENNY WEATHERS                                                                                                                  
[Address not provided]                                                                                                          
Cordova, Alaska  99473                                                                                                          
Telephone:  (907) 424-3745                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
THEA THOMAS, Board of Directors                                                                                                 
Copper River Salmon Producers Association                                                                                       
P.O. Box 1566                                                                                                                   
Cordova, Alaska  99574                                                                                                          
Telephone:  (907) 424-5266                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the reappointment                                                               
                     of Virgil Umphenour.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DALE BONDURANT                                                                                                                  
31864 Moonshine                                                                                                                 
Soldotna, Alaska  99669                                                                                                         
Telephone:  (907) 262-0818                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support to the appointments                                                                   
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
GRACE KENDELL                                                                                                                   
P.O. Box 2523                                                                                                                   
Soldotna, Alaska  99669                                                                                                         
Telephone:  (907) 262-6130                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JOE CONNORS, President                                                                                                          
Kenai River Professional Guide Association                                                                                      
P.O. Box 1085                                                                                                                   
Sterling, Alaska  99672                                                                                                         
Telephone:  (907) 262-9496                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support to the appointments                                                                   
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MARILYN KEENER                                                                                                                  
P.O. Box 2833                                                                                                                   
Kenai, Alaska  99611                                                                                                            
Telephone:  (907) 283-9513                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PHIL SQUIRES, President                                                                                                         
United Cook Inlet Drift Association                                                                                             
P.O. Box 1231                                                                                                                   
Kenai, Alaska  99611                                                                                                            
Telephone:  (907) 283-3600                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
LARRY VANSKY                                                                                                                    
HCR 1, Box 1330                                                                                                                 
Kenai, Alaska  99611                                                                                                            
Telephone:  (907) 776-8627                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MARK DUKER                                                                                                                      
23259 South Cohoe Loop                                                                                                          
Kasilof, Alaska  99610                                                                                                          
Telephone:  (907) 262-7989                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PAUL SHADURA                                                                                                                    
P.O. Box 1632                                                                                                                   
Kenai, Alaska  99611                                                                                                            
Telephone:  (907) 262-1771                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to the appointments                                                                
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEL ERICKSON, Representing                                                                                                      
Deep Creek Charter Boat Association                                                                                             
P.O. Box 1127                                                                                                                   
Soldotna, Alaska  99669                                                                                                         
Telephone:  (907) 262-2980                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support to the appointments                                                                   
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DON JOHNSON                                                                                                                     
P.O. Box 876                                                                                                                    
Soldotna, Alaska  99669                                                                                                         
Telephone:  (907) 262-7893                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support to the appointments                                                                   
                     of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant                                                                  
                     Miller to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 99-12, SIDE A                                                                                                              
Number 0001                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN BILL HUDSON called the House Special Committee on                                                                      
Fisheries meeting to order at 5:08 p.m.  Members present at the                                                                 
call to order were Representatives Hudson, Dyson, Morgan, and                                                                   
Smalley.  Representative Harris joined the meeting at 6:25 p.m.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 0060                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON announced that the committee would consider three                                                               
nominees for the Board of Fisheries; they would listen to the                                                                   
nominees and then to the public testimony.  He indicated that                                                                   
resumes were provided by all appointees.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0238                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
GRANT J. MILLER, Appointee to the Board of Fisheries, testified via                                                             
teleconference from Sitka.  He stated that he has been a commercial                                                             
fisherman for over 31 years and has been on the Board of Fisheries                                                              
for three years.  He indicated that he appreciates the group of                                                                 
people that he works with; there is a great deal of integrity and                                                               
concern for the resource.  He is happy to be a part of the team and                                                             
that is the main reason he wants to continue to be on the Board of                                                              
Fisheries.  Another reason is that they have started a committee                                                                
with the intent of producing a policy for the state for sustainable                                                             
fisheries.  The project is well under way and he would like to see                                                              
it all the way to completion.  He feels it is something that the                                                                
state can hold up to the rest of the country showing that Alaska                                                                
can maintain sustainability of its resources.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANT further stated that he would like to put a word in for                                                                
his fellow board members; Virgil Umphenour and Dan Coffey.  He said                                                             
that Mr. Umphenour has been a real asset to the board;  his concern                                                             
for the resource has been primary and his concern for people who                                                                
have little to work with out of the resources in their area says a                                                              
lot about who he is and what he cares about.  Mr. Coffey is a                                                                   
tremendous organizer and has made the function of the board                                                                     
extremely efficient.  He added that all of these things have                                                                    
contributed to an effective board and he is glad to be apart of it.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DYSON said that he is assuming there will be                                                                     
testimony from Cook Inlet fishermen in opposition to the                                                                        
reappointments of Mr. Grant, Mr. Coffey and Mr. Umphenour.  He                                                                  
wondered what Mr. Grant's perception is as to why Cook Inlet                                                                    
fishermen are cross with them and what the issues are.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0605                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANT responded that the meeting with regards to Cook Inlet the                                                             
Board of Fisheries passed an additional closure date for the drift                                                              
gillnet fleet and he believes that is why there is a considerable                                                               
amount of animosity.  He indicated that it was a difficult decision                                                             
because he knows how hard it is to give up fishing time.  He said                                                               
that his primary concern was the fact that some weak stocks were                                                                
passing through the Cook Inlet fishery and there was little                                                                     
information on them.  His tendency was to err on the side of                                                                    
conservation with regards to those stocks.  He feels that the                                                                   
Northern district setnetters have had limited opportunity to                                                                    
harvest in the past few years and he thought that the closure would                                                             
bump a few more fish into their fishery as well as pushing more                                                                 
fish up into the system of the Kenai River.  He pointed out that he                                                             
also made two motions following the vote on the closure that would                                                              
restrict the potential for the closures to occur.  One was to                                                                   
provide for a certain level of return during which the closure                                                                  
would happen and the other was to extend the days during which the                                                              
closure could take place; therefore, it is possible that the                                                                    
closure could take place after the peak of the run so that it would                                                             
have minimal impact.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0781                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DYSON wondered if Mr. Miller would catagorize the                                                                
disagreement as being between the commercial fleet and conservation                                                             
as opposed to between the commercial fleet and the sport fishing                                                                
industry.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER explained that he thinks it is a matter of perception on                                                             
the part of those who were unhappy with that decision, but he would                                                             
catagorize it as a disappointment between the drift gillnet fleet                                                               
and the additional protection from the weaker stocks and some                                                                   
additional fishing time for the Northern district setnetters.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SMALLEY mentioned he is from the Cook Inlet area.                                                                
He asked Mr. Miller what he thought the responsibility of the                                                                   
Alaska Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G) was with regards to the                                                              
management of fisheries in Alaska and what the Board of Fisheries                                                               
responsibility was with regards to fisheries.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER replied that the responsibilities for both are basically                                                             
the same.  He thinks ADF&G's responsibility is to ensure that there                                                             
is a continued resource or that there is sustainability; the same                                                               
applies to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SMALLEY wondered, with regards to a sustainable                                                                  
fishery, if Mr. Miller thinks it is possible for the Board of                                                                   
Fisheries to ensure a sustainable fishery in Alaska.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0980                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER said that he believes it is possible, but that there are                                                             
a lot of other factors, which include:  reduced budgets,                                                                        
insufficient enforcement and lack of data.  It is very difficult to                                                             
manage for sustainability without the information; it would be a                                                                
lot better if there was more research and more data on the returns.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SMALLEY requested clarification on whether or not                                                                
Mr. Miller thought there was sufficient biological data to support                                                              
this type of policy.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1069                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER stated that he thinks in some areas the amount of data                                                               
is greater than in others, particularly in Southeast where there is                                                             
a considerable amount of data, but in many areas of the state it is                                                             
difficult to collect the data and very expensive.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SMALLEY asked if it would be more appropriate for                                                                
the state to have a sustainable fishery policy developed by the                                                                 
ADF&G, Department of Natural Resources (DNR) and the Department of                                                              
Environmental Conservation (DEC), rather than by the Board of                                                                   
Fishery.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER replied no.  He said that he believes it would not be                                                                
better to have DNR or the DEC develop the policy.  Even when he was                                                             
not on the Board of Fisheries and was a fishermen his experiences                                                               
with DNR and DEC were not favorable.  He has a lot more faith in                                                                
ADF&G and with the current Board of Fisheries.  He believes that                                                                
the current board can accomplish what they need to with the limited                                                             
amount of information they have.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON stated that he has received testimony expressing                                                                
concern about a bias by certain board members toward hatcheries.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER stated that a certain board member feels that the                                                                    
hatcheries have had a negative impact on the marketability of the                                                               
resource from his area.  Mr. Miller indicated that he has a some                                                                
what different opinion, but he thinks each hatchery situation needs                                                             
to be looked at and assessed individually and that they cannot be                                                               
addressed in a broad sweeping way.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1256                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON said, as Mr. Miller probably knows, the legislature                                                             
is up against the wall on the subsistence issue.  He wondered if                                                                
Mr. Miller or the other board members have had a chance to discuss                                                              
the ramifications that it may have with regards to the Board of                                                                 
Fisheries roll with the fisheries at large.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER responded that he was not sure if he understood the                                                                  
question being asked, but the board members have had some casual                                                                
conversations with regards to the ramifications that the federal                                                                
management of fisheries would have, and none of them feel very                                                                  
positive about it.  A good example is the Beluga whale stock                                                                    
management issue in Cook Inlet; if the Board of Fisheries would                                                                 
have had jurisdiction over that they would not have let a situation                                                             
of that nature go as far as it did.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1339                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SMALLEY wondered why there is a new committee                                                                    
process if local advisory committees have advised the board for                                                                 
over 40 years.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER stated that the advisory committee process is first                                                                  
class and he feels that it needs to be empowered even more.  He                                                                 
also thinks that the committee process, in terms of going to each                                                               
community, has been invaluable.  He said, "It is not a matter of                                                                
one or the other, it is a matter of the more opportunity there is                                                               
to get information the more information they are going to get."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SMALLEY commented that in the last meeting in                                                                    
Soldotna it appeared that the new committee process kind of                                                                     
circumvented public input because once the committee came up with                                                               
a decision that's the way it was going to be.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER indicated that he was not sure he saw it that way.  He                                                               
said that they had some concerns about what came out of committee                                                               
and not allowing the public to respond.  They made some adjustments                                                             
to that so the public could see what came out of committee and                                                                  
respond at that time.  He said he doesn't feel that the board is                                                                
shutting anything off; if anything, they are opening more doors.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON asked if Mr. Miller is currently participating in                                                               
a fishery as a permit holder, crew member or sport fisherman.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER replied that he is currently a commercial fisherman and                                                              
has a herring bait pound operation.  He said that he passed his                                                                 
seine, troll and long line permits over to his son.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
VIRGIL L. UMPHENOUR, Appointee to the Board of Fisheries, testified                                                             
via teleconference from Fairbanks.  He stated that he has lived in                                                              
Alaska since 1971 and has been on the Board of Fisheries for the                                                                
past five years.  He bought a commercial fish wheel license for the                                                             
upper Yukon in 1984 and fished with that until 1995 when he turned                                                              
it over to his son.  In 1985 he started a fish processing business                                                              
in Fairbanks, which he is currently operating.  They process                                                                    
commercial-caught fish primarily from the upper Yukon district.                                                                 
They also process subsistence-caught fish and do custom processing                                                              
of wild game.  He indicated that the reason he wants to stay on the                                                             
Board of Fisheries is similar to what Mr. Miller said; they have a                                                              
very good team, they are very responsive to the public, the                                                                     
sustainable fishery process is important and it is important to                                                                 
have a policy that will answer some of the questions that the board                                                             
has on sustainability.  He also noted that the current composition                                                              
of the board is very balanced and he supports the confirmation of                                                               
Mr. Miller and Mr. Coffey.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1712                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SMALLEY asked Mr. Umphenour what he considers to be                                                              
a commercial mixed stock fishery.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. UMPHENOUR replied that a mixed stock fishery is a fishery that                                                              
harvests fish that are destined for more than one place; therefore,                                                             
it is a general rule that the management biologists do not have any                                                             
means to assess the strength of the individual stocks that make up                                                              
the mixed stock.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SMALLEY asked Mr. Umphenour what his viewpoint is on                                                             
cost recovery of aquaculture programs.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. UMPHENOUR stated that his viewpoint on cost recovery is that it                                                             
should be reasonable.  The original purpose for the hatchery                                                                    
enhancement program in the state was to rebuild depressed wild                                                                  
salmon stocks; therefore, the cost recovery process is suppose to                                                               
generate operating funds to operate hatcheries in order to rebuild                                                              
the depressed stocks.  Whenever an aquaculture association or a                                                                 
hatchery harvests more of the hatchery-produced stocks then the                                                                 
common property is allowed to harvest, he feels they are defeating                                                              
the purpose.  There are cases where the cost recovery harvest is                                                                
100 percent of the harvest.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1830                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SMALLEY wondered who should implement policy                                                                     
regarding the fishery source in Alaska.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. UMPHENOUR responded that the legislature has given that                                                                     
authority to the Board of Fisheries.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON asked the same question that he asked Mr. Miller                                                                
with regards to the testimony he has received expressing concern                                                                
about a bias by certain board members toward hatcheries.  He said                                                               
that some folks seemed to believe that Mr. Umphenour had a conflict                                                             
of interest.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1887                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. UMPHENOUR indicated that some people consider him biased and                                                                
prejudice against the hatcheries.  He stated that he is not                                                                     
prejudice against hatcheries, but he does question when the                                                                     
hatchery system was set up in the state it was set up to rebuild                                                                
and rehabilitate depressed wild salmon stocks.  The way it was set                                                              
up is that each region could have regional planning teams.  Those                                                               
regional planning teams would decide what their production would be                                                             
without any thought given to what the impact would be on other                                                                  
regions of the state; therefore, in a situation like that a small                                                               
region of the state is allowed to take public funds from the state                                                              
and they expend these public funds and they are allowed to set what                                                             
the production and marketing is going to be.  When they compete                                                                 
against private enterprise and increase the production it is a                                                                  
situation like in Prince William Sound.  In the 1980s the wild                                                                  
catch of chum salmon averaged between 1.1 and 1.2 million fish,                                                                 
where the hatchery production was around 100,000 and now in the                                                                 
1990s it has flip flopped; the harvest of the wild chum salmon is                                                               
between 100,000 to 150,000 and they are harvesting an excess of 1                                                               
million hatchery produced chum salmon.  There is a lot of concern                                                               
about the competition of the wild salmon with the hatchery salmon.                                                              
He indicated that DIPAC (Douglas Island Pink and Chum) have been                                                                
releasing chum salmon smolt near the mouth of the Taku River.  The                                                              
Canadian biologists are concerned that the wild chum salmon stocks                                                              
that enter the river are being out competed by the hatchery chum                                                                
salmon smolts that are being released from the hatchery to the                                                                  
extent that the wild chum salmon are approaching the endangered                                                                 
species mode.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 2963                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN mentioned the last cycle in Anchorage                                                                  
created a problem with bottom fishing statewide.  He said he has                                                                
received a number of calls indicating that Mr. Umphenour is more                                                                
concerned with the in-stream fishery and that he is out to                                                                      
basically do away with the bottom fisheries in Alaska.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. UMPHENOUR believes resident small-vessel fishermen (in the                                                                  
smaller communities) should not have to compete against very large                                                              
(hard-on-bottom) trawlers, including mid-water trawlers that come                                                               
up from Washington state where the majority of them are owned by                                                                
large corporations.  For example the Bank of Norway uses "American                                                              
Seafoods" as their name to mislead the American public when it's a                                                              
primarily Norwegian-owned company.  He emphasized the people of                                                                 
Alaska should have the first shot at the resources.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN pointed out that the bottom fishery and                                                                
whitefish industry is the larger fishery in Alaska and that a lot                                                               
of that is offshore, however, most of the Alaska fleets would not                                                               
be able to participate due to the size of their vessels.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2217                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. UMPHENOUR explained the board only regulates out to the                                                                     
three-mile limit in the groundfish fisheries.  However, the board                                                               
regulates that entire crab fishery to the 200-mile limit because                                                                
the North Pacific Fisheries Management Council gave that authority                                                              
to the state.  He further stated that the board is very concerned                                                               
with the by-catch and the manner in which by-catch is counted in                                                                
these trawl fisheries.  The board did convince the North Pacific                                                                
Fisheries Management Council to lower the cap on king salmon in the                                                             
Bering Sea last February due to the by-catch of salmon and other                                                                
species that do affect our inshore salmon fishermen because they                                                                
just kill them and pitch them overboard.  He reiterated that he is                                                              
very supportive of Alaskans having the first shot at catching                                                                   
whatever the harvest is and employing people in the state because                                                               
the majority of the large fleet (which fishes offshore) employees                                                               
aren't even citizens of this country we should employ Alaskans                                                                  
first.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN asked Mr. Umphenour, "If a dragger out of                                                              
Kodiak, or Unalaska, or Chignik, as long as his fishing within the                                                              
three-miles and he's Alaskan-owned, you don't have a problem."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. UMPHENOUR replied he has a problem if he's hard-on-bottom                                                                   
trawling.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN asked what about mid-water.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. UMPHENOUR stated that he can see mid-water trawling as long as                                                              
it's done in a responsible manner.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 2337                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SMALLEY asked, with an increased demand on a                                                                     
fully-utilized fishery, what factors do you consider when                                                                       
allocating the resource.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. UMPHENOUR replied that he goes by the board's allocation                                                                    
criteria.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SMALLEY asked how would you elaborate on that.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. UMPHENOUR said the first thing the board addresses is the                                                                   
history of the fishery, number of participants in the fishery,                                                                  
where they live, whether the fishery is going to provide                                                                        
recreational activities for residents and nonresidents of the state                                                             
and whether the fishery is going to provide fish to put on the                                                                  
Alaskan's dinner table.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SMALLEY asked what is the future of commercial                                                                   
fisheries and the guided sports fishing industries on Cook Inlet                                                                
and its tributaries.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 2360                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. UMPHENOUR pointed out, with the growing demand for the limited                                                              
resources, sport fish guides are going to have to be regulated.  He                                                             
mentioned that he has worked with Representative Austerman during                                                               
the last two years in an attempt to get the sport fishing guiding                                                               
industry regulated and until we regulate them, were going to                                                                    
continue to have problems.  Mr. Umphenour stated, "With growth of                                                               
that fishery and with people coming up from outside and declaring                                                               
their self a sport fish fisherman and paying for a guide, and all                                                               
they have to do is pay $50 and declare themselves one, and they are                                                             
one with absolutely no ethics, conduct - or anything to regulate                                                                
them, other than just the regulations that the boards passed and                                                                
all we can do is regulate methods and means and seasons and bag                                                                 
limits, we can't regulate them.  I see a lot of problems there and                                                              
the board is going to have to keep regulating the seasons and the                                                               
bag limits so that we make the pie even smaller for the                                                                         
individuals. ... And a lot commercial fishermen are complaining                                                                 
that their seasons have been shortened.  The reason their seasons                                                               
have been shortened has been primarily because their efficiency has                                                             
increased with modernization and whenever, regardless of whether                                                                
their season shortened or not, if they're catching the same amount                                                              
of fish, or a larger amount of fish, then that's all the board can                                                              
do because we're mandated by the legislator to manage the fisheries                                                             
for sustainable yield. ... We just have to keep restricting and I                                                               
see more restrictions in the future as efficiency continues to                                                                  
increase and as the population increase and because we haven't been                                                             
able to get the legislature to pass a statute to regulate sport                                                                 
fish guides."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 2499                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN said there were two incidents in Kodiak.                                                               
The first one dealt with the sport fish industry and the second                                                                 
with the limit of five kings.  He noted that the advisory board                                                                 
made recommendations yet those recommendations weren't followed by                                                              
the board.  He asked Mr. Umphenour if he wanted to comment.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. UMPHENOUR indicated that was a very heated issue.  He said the                                                              
advisory committee could not reach a consensus and that there was                                                               
a big dispute between the vice-chair of the advisory committee in                                                               
Kodiak and some of the other people on that committee.  The board                                                               
did what they thought was the best thing to do with the least                                                                   
amount of economic hardship to the people involved.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN remarked that's not what he recalls.  He                                                               
said he will have to pull the record on that issue.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. UMPHENOUR further explained that the board received a lot of                                                                
testimony and written documentation.  He suggested Representative                                                               
Austerman obtain a copy of the minority and majority reports.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[The following witnesses testified via teleconference].                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 2646                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
GARY HOLLIER testified from Anchorage in opposition to the                                                                      
confirmation of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to                                                                
the Board of Fisheries.  He noted that he was born in Alaska, and                                                               
hired 17 people last summer, 11 of which were born and raised in                                                                
Alaska, including two Alaska Natives.  He worked hard for what he                                                               
has and doesn't feel that the board has given him a fair shake.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOLLIER said the board met seven times in the last four years                                                               
and has hammered on his business with new regulations without                                                                   
biological data.  He urged the members not to confirm Dan Coffey,                                                               
Virgil Umphenour or Grant Miller, because the current board has put                                                             
Alaska's fishery on its knees.  He remarked that Governor Knowles                                                               
said he wants the jobs for Alaskans, yet his board has destroyed                                                                
many family businesses by his appointments to the board.  Mr.                                                                   
Hollier stated, "How can commercial fishermen get a fair shake by                                                               
dancing with Dan Coffey when he helped author the fish initiative                                                               
which would have put commercial fishermen out of business?  Three                                                               
years ago the Board of Fish [Fisheries] raised escapement goals in                                                              
the Kenai River from 700,000 to 850,000 and wanted an update from                                                               
the [Alaska] Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G) as far as to what                                                              
the impact was.  [The Alaska Department of ]Fish and Game ... said                                                              
(this year) that the Kenai River, Russian River watershed, was the                                                              
number one most impaired watersheds in the state of Alaska but no                                                               
damage could be accounted for by boat wakes or angler pressure.  To                                                             
me this is a joke, ... then they went and raised escapement goals                                                               
this year to l.2 million - I don't think they're good stewards for                                                              
the resource.  I think Dan Coffey leads the board along with Doctor                                                             
White, the rest of the people just follow."  Mr.  Hollier concluded                                                             
that if you can find new individuals who aren't so biased, you can                                                              
give the people of the Kenai Peninsula Borough a fair shake.  The                                                               
Kenai Peninsula Borough realizes what great harm the current Board                                                              
of Fisheries has done to the Kenai Peninsula Borough and its                                                                    
citizens.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 2767                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN HOPKINS testified from Cordova in opposition to the                                                                        
reappointment of Virgil Umphenour noting that he is an Alaska                                                                   
Native and that he would like to respond to a few inflammatory                                                                  
remarks that Mr. Umphenour made last week.  Mr. Hopkins said the                                                                
PWSAC (Prince William Sound Aquaculture Corporation) debt probably                                                              
would have been in fine shape if "we" had not helped the state out                                                              
by taking over the two hatcheries that the state was having                                                                     
difficulty managing.  And had we known the effects of the oil                                                                   
spill, we may have chosen a different plan.  He said he does not                                                                
believe PWSAC would be allowed to produce salmon to the detriment                                                               
of wild stocks, PWSAC is being watched closely by ADF&G and other                                                               
state agencies, to allow any harm to come to wild stocks would be                                                               
against their rules.  As for the Copper River Flats, any person                                                                 
with an inkling of common sense would realize that it is not to the                                                             
best interest of any commercial fisherman to even think of wiping                                                               
out the fishery.  He said the drift gillnetters on the Copper River                                                             
work hard with ADF&G to make suggestions which makes management                                                                 
easier for ADF&G and allows them to be part of the team.  For this                                                              
reason, they have experienced record runs of king salmon and                                                                    
sockey.  He concluded that their most important reason to be                                                                    
conservation-minded is because they would like their children to                                                                
fish and to be able to eat the salmon because it is the best food                                                               
in the world.  Mr. Hopkins said, "This is why I am opposed to Mr.                                                               
Umphenour's reappointment because he is uninformed and he doesn't                                                               
try to find out the facts and he shouldn't be allowed to be making                                                              
important decisions for this state or its people."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 2884                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SUE ASPELUND, Executive Director, Cordova District Fishermen                                                                    
United, testified from Cordova in opposition to the confirmation of                                                             
Virgil Umphenour on behalf of the Cordova District Fishermen                                                                    
United, because they believe that the board and the public's                                                                    
interest would be better served by the (indisc.) and unbiased                                                                   
appointee, one who is clearly able to ascertain the facts and is                                                                
able to treat the public with respect.  "We believe Mr. Umphenour                                                               
demonstrated prejudices and unwillingness to critically examine the                                                             
facts should preclude him from further service on the board.  The                                                               
issues facing our industry are diverse.  They demand the kind of                                                                
knowledge, skills and abilities that come from a broader scope of                                                               
experience than which currently exists on the board.  We believe                                                                
that the appointment of someone other than Mr. Umphenour could                                                                  
provide for improved balance and performance."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 2905                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN RENNER testified from Cordova in opposition to the                                                                         
reappointment of Virgil Umphenour to the board noting he personally                                                             
witnessed Mr. Umphenour's outburst at the last board meeting and                                                                
that he repeats inaccurate facts.  Subsequently the board went into                                                             
an executive session and asked the public to leave.  He said Virgil                                                             
Umphenour is biased on his lack - Prince William Sound is important                                                             
to Cordova, he is biased on the Copper River, he has a conflict of                                                              
interest because he processes poundage out of the upper Copper                                                                  
River, so of course he doesn't want a commercial fishery on the                                                                 
lower Copper River.  However, it has been managed affectively and                                                               
conservatively for 100 years, and it has been increasing to record                                                              
numbers.  Mr. Renner stated, "The percentage of harvest by species,                                                             
by user-group on the Copper River, the percentage of that are                                                                   
raising are up-river, sir, not down-river."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RENNER said he is also very concerned with the new subcommittee                                                             
system that the board has gone to.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 99-12, SIDE B                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. RENNER continued.  "We have no input when things happen in                                                                  
subcommittees and it's a whole different system than we've been                                                                 
dealing with for years.  I hope you could see it to appoint someone                                                             
who listens to facts and is less biased and can retain the facts.                                                               
Please don't reappoint Mr. Umphenour."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2937                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LAIFE WEATHERS testified from Cordova in opposition to the                                                                      
reappointment of Virgil Umphenour to the Board of Fisheries noting                                                              
that he is a commercial fisherman in Prince William Sound.  He                                                                  
strongly urged the committee not to confirm Virgil Umphenour to the                                                             
Board of Fisheries because he has shown himself to be prejudice                                                                 
against the Copper River drift gillnetters by telling lies about                                                                
the fishery.  An example is comparing drift beach seining to drift                                                              
gillnetting for kings.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2899                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT HEYANO testified from Dillingham in support of Dan Coffey,                                                               
Grant Miller, and Virgil Umphenour to the Board of Fisheries.  He                                                               
noted that he is a lifelong resident of the Dillingham area and is                                                              
a second-generation commercial fisherman and has represented the                                                                
local advisory committee for a number of years and worked with a                                                                
number of different Board of Fisheries members.  He believes these                                                              
three members are doing a very good job, he finds them very                                                                     
accessible during the meetings to discuss Dillingham's position                                                                 
with them, he finds them knowledgeable in the fisheries' issues,                                                                
and they are willing to let the stakeholders work out compromises                                                               
on allocation issues.  Mr. Heyano added that he finds the new                                                                   
subcommittee very positive because it provides board members with                                                               
a lot more detailed information than the previous system did.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 2818                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN VANHATTEN, testified from Fairbanks on behalf of the Tanana                                                               
Chiefs Conference in opposition to the reappointment of Virgil                                                                  
Umphenour.  He said the basis for our lack of support is due to the                                                             
problems that have arisen in the communities on the Koyukuk River.                                                              
Mr. Vanhatten further stated, "As you know Mr. Umphenour is a big                                                               
game guide in that area of the state and some issues concerning the                                                             
sensitivity of the Koyukuk River has been brought to our attention                                                              
regarding his operations there.  Due to those reasons, we cannot                                                                
support Virgil Umphenour reappointment to the Board of Fisheries."                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 2769                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RALPH SEEKINS, President, Alaska Wildlife Conservation Association                                                              
testified from Fairbanks in support of the reappointment of Virgil                                                              
Umphenour to the Board of Fisheries.  He said the Alaska Wildlife                                                               
Conservation Association thinks his perspective to the Board of                                                                 
Fisheries is important especially for the people who live in the                                                                
Interior of Alaska.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 2757                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DREW SCALZI, Representing the Kenai Peninsula Borough Assembly,                                                                 
testified that the assembly chose by resolution last Tuesday to ask                                                             
the legislature to not reappoint the three incumbents to the Board                                                              
of Fisheries, noting he has been on the assembly for approximately                                                              
seven years, and in that time they have taken many steps to ensure                                                              
the health of the Kenai River.  He said the assembly has taken                                                                  
economically-valued selected land along the river and placed it in                                                              
preservation status, they have given part of the land back to the                                                               
state so it could be used for critical buffer areas, and they                                                                   
struggled for two years with their first step of zoning in                                                                      
establishing a 50-foot buffer along the Kenai River on both private                                                             
and public lands.  Mr. Scalzi indicated they had much resistance                                                                
this, a lot of them were absentee property owners from Anchorage,                                                               
but nevertheless, after two years of compromising the ordinance                                                                 
passed.  And with the cooperation of the state, federal and borough                                                             
cooperation they came about with the Kenai River Center.  He                                                                    
emphasized that he brought these issues up to show that the Kenai                                                               
Peninsula Borough has stepped up both financially and with                                                                      
legislation to protect and enhance the Kenai River and the assembly                                                             
does not feel that the Board of Fisheries is acting in the river's                                                              
best interest.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCALZI further stated that it was interesting to hear Mr.                                                                   
Umphenour comment on what should be done regarding the amount of                                                                
pressure that the guides put on the river.  However no action has                                                               
been taken, it seems that the only action they see from the Board                                                               
of Fisheries each year is that they curtail the commercial salmon                                                               
catch.  By changing the terms of managing of sockey for commercial                                                              
in the management plan, and increasing the acceptable escapement                                                                
levels to 1.2 million sockey, the board has affectively allowed the                                                             
river to reach potentially high and low fluctuations and the result                                                             
of which will be economically disastrous for the commercial                                                                     
industry and biologically unacceptable as anyone knows the                                                                      
ramifications of over escapement and these escapement levels have                                                               
far exceeded the recommended limits of the Alaska Department of                                                                 
Fish and Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 2609                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
STEVE VANEK testified from Ninilchik in opposition to the                                                                       
confirmation of the three board members.  He said Dan Coffey, Grant                                                             
Miller and Virgil Umphenour have had an agenda for Cook Inlet since                                                             
they were first appointed, that their agenda was to reduce the                                                                  
catch of all salmon by commercial fishermen in the central                                                                      
district.  They began by generating their own anti-commercial                                                                   
fishing proposals out-of-cycle and were prepared to act on them                                                                 
without public comment.  There was such a public outcry, from                                                                   
around the state, that Mr. Coffey apologized for circumventing the                                                              
public process.  Mr. Vanek stated, "Mister Miller said he was                                                                   
concerned about weak stocks.  What did he do about the northern                                                                 
district setnetters and the sport fishermen?  Shouldn't everyone                                                                
share the burden, why just the drift gillnetters?  He said he                                                                   
wanted to pass more fish to the northern district setnetters, how                                                               
does that protect weak stocks."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. VANEK noted the second reason he is opposed to the three board                                                              
members is because they have destroyed the advisory committee and                                                               
the public process through Mr. Coffey's board appointed                                                                         
subcommittees and that the new board committee process makes a joke                                                             
out of the local advisory committee.  Mr. Vanek stated, "We who                                                                 
represent the public, from our area, must sit down on a board                                                                   
subcommittee equally with special interest groups.  Elected                                                                     
advisory committee members have no more influence on a single                                                                   
person representing a special interest.  All important occur in                                                                 
these subcommittees, so why would I want to waste my time on a                                                                  
local advisory committee anymore, why should the public waste their                                                             
time testifying before the board anymore.  This board committee                                                                 
process takes more time and produces volumes of more paperwork, it                                                              
must go and so must these three board members who promoted it."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 2501                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN MCCOMBS testified from Kenai in opposition to the                                                                          
confirmations of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to                                                               
the Board of Fisheries.  He explained the present Board of                                                                      
Fisheries came to Soldotna last winter and put more fish and more                                                               
people on the Kenai River and did nothing to mitigate habitat                                                                   
degradation - fish don't spawn on boardwalks.  Actions taken by                                                                 
this board restricted the drift fleet by removing three best                                                                    
openings without financial consideration mandated by their own                                                                  
allocation criteria.  The present board allocated fish to                                                                       
nonresident sport fishermen, taking them from resident commercial                                                               
fishermen.  Mr. McCombs said the state constitution stipulates                                                                  
against allocating natural resources to nonresidents, if this was                                                               
gold, or oil or timber, such an allocation would not be tolerated.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. MCCOMBS continued.  "This board circumvented the advisory                                                                   
committee, instituted a new committee process without the                                                                       
traditional public notice or comment period.  Columbia Wards                                                                    
Cannery closed their doors in Kenai, Icicle Seafood in Homer has                                                                
chosen not to rebuild - net loss 200-300 jobs - both companies                                                                  
stating the difficulty of trying to do business in a hostile                                                                    
regulatory environment.  Is this the purpose and function of the                                                                
Board of Fish to close businesses, bankrupt fishermen, allocate                                                                 
resources and redistribute jobs and dollars?  Ninety percent of the                                                             
state's total sport and commercial-economic value is not                                                                        
represented by this board.  There are three Cook Inlet sport fish                                                               
advocates on the present board.  Geographic and economic                                                                        
representation has never been worse.  Without armed guards, without                                                             
hiding behind the gavel, come back to Soldotna and explain how the                                                              
board justifies killing so many jobs on the Kenai Peninsula.  I                                                                 
urge you not to confirm Grant Miller, Virgil Umphenour, or Dan                                                                  
Coffey."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2369                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SMALLEY said he heard another cannery was closing                                                                
down on the Kenai River and noted that it was purchased.  He asked                                                              
Mr. McCombs if that was correct.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MCCOMBS replied yes, other processors are also going to work in                                                             
one facility and they're going to combine their efforts and thus                                                                
trying to keep their overhead down to stay in business this summer.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 2371                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL GRANGER testified from Kenai in opposition to the                                                                          
confirmations of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to                                                               
the Board of Fisheries, noting that he has lived on the Kenai                                                                   
Peninsula for 28 years and has been a commercial fisherman for 21                                                               
years, 5 years as a permit holder.  He said he attended the Alaska                                                              
Board of Fisheries meeting in Soldotna and was appalled at the way                                                              
the board was conducted.  He said overwhelming public comment to                                                                
the board was met with deaf ears - it became obvious to him that                                                                
the board came to town with an agenda which was designed to destroy                                                             
the commercial fishing industry in Cook Inlet.  He emphasized that                                                              
he is asking the legislature to withhold the confirmation of Dan                                                                
Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2315                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RION VANEK testified from Kenai in opposition to the confirmations                                                              
of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of                                                                
Fisheries, noting that he is a Cook Inlet drift gillnet fisherman.                                                              
He said the current board has affected the inlet's fishery and his                                                              
livelihood dramatically.  With no representation on the Board of                                                                
Fisheries from his area this board has made sweeping changes                                                                    
without any regard to the economic consequence brought upon the                                                                 
industry and the Kenai Peninsula.  Mr. Vanek stated, "On a more                                                                 
personal level, this board has brought considerable hardship to me                                                              
and my family.  I bought a permit to enter a fishery with a                                                                     
longstanding tradition of support by the state.  One agency brings                                                              
stability by issuing and monitoring ownership of the limited                                                                    
fishing rights, another agency lends money to people like me                                                                    
indebting them to the state in order to keep permits in the hands                                                               
of Alaskans and provide them with opportunities.  The third agency                                                              
is supposed to make sure the resource remains stable and healthy,                                                               
this third agency has instead become a vehicle for special interest                                                             
to rob commercial fishermen of their livelihood or even their                                                                   
ability to make payments to the second agency.  This Board of                                                                   
Fisheries has not provided stability or health to the resource.  We                                                             
need to have people on the Board of Fisheries who care about the                                                                
resource and understand the economics involved with closing down                                                                
our fishing industries.  Increasing escapement levels, in an                                                                    
already over-escaped river, shows disregard for the recourse and                                                                
even less regard for the well-being of fishing families."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 2231                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
STEVE TVENSTRUP testified from Kenai in opposition to the                                                                       
confirmations of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to                                                               
the Board of Fisheries, noting that he was born and raised in                                                                   
Alaska and currently obtained a commercial fishing permit.  He said                                                             
Grant Miller indicated that there was a few commercial fishermen                                                                
not happy with the process, and the processes that he has been in                                                               
with the Board of Fisheries for the last six years have been "take,                                                             
take, take," from the commercial fisheries.  If they're worried                                                                 
about weak stocks, the local Department of Fish and Game will shut                                                              
it down, for example in 1998 the drift fishermen shutdown for most                                                              
of the season by the Board of Fisheries.  Mister Tvenstrup                                                                      
emphasized, "There's got to be some changes here.  We have to have                                                              
some representation on the commercial fisheries and on the Kenai                                                                
Peninsula here.  There's no reason for these particular board                                                                   
members to be shutting up the hard and fast closure like the 25 and                                                             
the 23 [of July].  The 15th has also been a very critical closure,                                                              
there used to be a handful of local fishermen on the 15 of August                                                               
would go out and fish this fishery when there was a strong stock                                                                
out there that we weren't the stock and we were able to make some                                                               
money, now we're shut down on the 8 of August ... for the silver                                                                
stocks and even the Kenai River and the Mat-Su (Matanuska-Susitna)                                                              
for silvers there for the sport fishermen.  So we need some help,                                                               
we need some representation please I urge you not to reconfirm                                                                  
these gentlemen."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 2118                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOE MALATESTA testified from Kenai in opposition to the                                                                         
confirmations of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to                                                               
the Board of Fisheries, noting that he forwarded a 40-plus page to                                                              
the legislature and that none of these men deserve to be                                                                        
reappointed because they don't care about the habitat or about the                                                              
economy in Kenai or the people that live there.  Mister Malatesta                                                               
said this board is going to go down in the history of Alaska as the                                                             
worst Board of Fisheries to circumvent the board's process.  For                                                                
example, they've taken (indis.--paper shuffling) up out of cycle                                                                
two or three times just to take away fishing time for these folks.                                                              
This committee process is a joke and it's never been noticed nor                                                                
has there ever been public comment.  They appoint people at random                                                              
from the public to do the public's business, it's bad and it's                                                                  
illegal.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALATESTA further stated that the board dismantled the Upper                                                                
Cook Inlet Management Plan and took out the priority.  He said,                                                                 
"These folks down here have got a very short time to commercial                                                                 
fish, they only get to fish now from the 1 - 8, and some of the 15                                                              
of August and this is terrible.  They have to make their living in                                                              
that time.  The industry down here is no longer viable because of                                                               
this Board of Fisheries and at this last hearing they were told by                                                              
not only businesses, but ... in front of you with a bunch of                                                                    
petitions with approximately 600 people, and there's more to come.                                                              
We're tired of it, we do not want these men confirmed, they do not                                                              
deserve to sit there and make these rules and regulations, they're                                                              
hurting the resource and the habitat, and keep in mind the most                                                                 
precious resource is our children."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1984                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHUCK ROBINSON testified from Kenai in opposition to the                                                                        
confirmations of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to                                                               
the Board of Fisheries, noting that he has a commercial setnet                                                                  
permit in Cook Inlet and has fished in Cook Inlet since 1976.  He                                                               
stated, all three of these people have sat on the board for the                                                                 
last five years and have had an agenda since that time to pretty                                                                
much restrict commercial salmon fishing in Cook Inlet to the point                                                              
where it's no longer economically viable for fishermen to do it.                                                                
The Board of Fisheries has a cycle regulation or policy that they                                                               
will only consider a subject fishery every three years,                                                                         
unfortunately these three members have pushed forth considering                                                                 
Cook Inlet every year.  And every year that they've come up and                                                                 
considered the fishery, every year they've taken something away                                                                 
from the commercial fishermen.  Mister Robinson further stated,                                                                 
"Here's an example of why I believe Mr. Umphenour isn't fit to                                                                  
serve, he was asked a question as what does he see the future of                                                                
commercial fishing and guiding to be in the Cook Inlet area, and he                                                             
addressed only one-half of the question by saying that he thought                                                               
the problem with the guides was that they were unregulated.  Well,                                                              
they're certainly regulated as to time, area, bag limits, et                                                                    
cetera, but he's right they're not regulated in terms of entry into                                                             
the fishery, there's not a lawful way right now for that to happen.                                                             
But he failed to talk about what he saw as the future for                                                                       
commercial fishing in Cook Inlet and if you look at Virgil's                                                                    
[Umphenour] voting record, I can pretty much tell you that his idea                                                             
of the future is the potential elimination and strangulation of the                                                             
fishery.  The commercial fishermen are not regulated by the board                                                               
in terms of entry into its fishery either, but that doesn't mean                                                                
that because they're not regulated by entry into the fishery that                                                               
the Board of Fisheries should play favorites and give sport guides                                                              
better opportunities to fish than commercial fishermen but that's                                                               
precisely what's going on here.  This idea of the state, and when                                                               
I say state I mean when the Board of Fisheries - they're state                                                                  
officials, when the state gets involved in giving advantages of                                                                 
competition to private individuals, it seems to me that the state                                                               
has overstepped its bounds.  And by giving more competitive-edge to                                                             
sport fisheries, particularly guides, than commercial fisheries,                                                                
then they have jumped into a fray that they should never be                                                                     
involved in.  They should stay out of the economic competition                                                                  
between users and just strictly with what's in the best interest of                                                             
the resource.  And none of these men, including Dan Coffey who has                                                              
always had agenda to get rid of commercial fishing - have the                                                                   
resource at heart.  All they really have at heart is making it                                                                  
better for their own interest groups to advance over the expense                                                                
and hardship of another."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1800                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DON FOX testified from Kodiak in opposition to the confirmation of                                                              
Virgil Umphenour, noting that he is a 30-year Kodiak fisherman,                                                                 
that he has been on the Kodiak Advisory Committee for 12 years, is                                                              
a member of the Regional Aquaculture Committee, and is a USA                                                                    
Steering Committee member.  He stated, "I would like to address                                                                 
this as the 'Alaska Board of Salmon,' I think there's too many                                                                  
salmon members on it and there should be somebody appointed to this                                                             
who has a well-grounded knowledge of bottomfish, dragging and our                                                               
shellfish industry which are a big part of our state, so I would                                                                
like to have somebody appointed to that.  And a comment on the                                                                  
committee process, I saw it in action and I liked it - and I've                                                                 
been to a lot of Board of Fisheries meetings and I really like it.                                                              
And to get somebody on the board who would represent these other                                                                
interests and who has a knowledge of them, I guess I would have to                                                              
say Virgil Umphenour would be the one not to confirm even though I                                                              
would love to find a reason to get rid of Dan Coffey but I can't,                                                               
I disagree with him but he does his homework, he listens, and I                                                                 
don't think he's prejudice against commercial as much as other                                                                  
people think.  But Virgil - I think he has a habit of going into                                                                
meetings with his mind made up, I've seen it happen and no matter                                                               
what you say, it's just like in the tunnel, tunnel-vision, he's                                                                 
already got his mind made up.  Personally I like the man, I've                                                                  
talked to him, I like him, but I would like you to reject Virgil."                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1691                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SKIP BOLTEN testified from Kodiak in opposition to the confirmation                                                             
of Virgil Umphenour, noting that he has been a commercial                                                                       
fisherman, residing and fishing out of Kodiak for the past 33 years                                                             
and during that time he has been on the Board of Directors of the                                                               
United Fishermen Marketing Association for over 20 years and has                                                                
been the Vice President of the Alaska Draggers Association for the                                                              
last four years.  He said his involvement in fisheries politics                                                                 
has, up until now, been on a local level.  At the January Board of                                                              
Fisheries meeting, which was held in Kodiak, he testified as a                                                                  
stakeholder on Proposal 132 and bottom trawling in the state waters                                                             
in Kodiak and subsequently became a member of the Groundfish                                                                    
Committee, from there he was appointed by the board to serve on a                                                               
non-pelagic Trawl Task Force which he did for two months before the                                                             
March Board of Fisheries meeting in Anchorage.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOLTEN stated, "I must say that the inclination of the Board of                                                             
Fisheries to close all state waters to non-pelagic trawling had me                                                              
in disbelief that this governing body was making decisions                                                                      
affecting so many people would be so biased and unwilling to listen                                                             
to both sides of the issue was shocking.  In particular, Mr.                                                                    
Umphenour's manner of professional conduct could not have been less                                                             
professional.  During the March Board of Fisheries meeting in                                                                   
Anchorage, and more specifically the final deliberations of the                                                                 
Board of Fisheries and Proposal 132, Mr. Umphenour's predisposed                                                                
biased and totally unprofessional conduct was rampant as is                                                                     
demonstrated by this tape.  This short excerpt begins with Doctor                                                               
White, Chairman of the Board of Fisheries asking Mr. Dave Jackson,                                                              
Department of Fish and Game, Kodiak, about safety issues relating                                                               
to the proposed closed areas."  [Mr. Bolten played a portion of the                                                             
tape but it was difficult to understand due to teleconferencing].                                                               
Mr. Bolten continued, "I ask you, you be the judge, is this a kind                                                              
of an individual who will make intelligent, fair, unbiased, and I'm                                                             
going to underline this:  rational decisions that will not only                                                                 
affect the livelihoods but also the lives of many coastal Alaskan                                                               
fishermen and their families, I don't think so.  Please don't                                                                   
confirm Mr. Umphenour."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON mentioned the audio was a little difficult coming                                                               
over the teleconfrence, however, the committee has a copy of the                                                                
tape if anybody would like to listen to it.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1236                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
AL GEISER read the following letter in opposition to the                                                                        
reappointment of Virgil Umphenour from VIRGINIA ADAMS to                                                                        
Representative Austerman, dated April 23, 1999:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     I would like to take this opportunity to comment on the                                                                    
     confirmation of Virgil Umphenour to the Alaska Board of                                                                    
     Fisheries.  Since Mr. Umphenour was appointed to the Board of                                                              
     Fisheries, I have attended all Board of Fisheries meetings                                                                 
     relating to my area, Kodiak.  I have attended these meetings                                                               
     as the President of Northwest Seiners Association, as a Board                                                              
     member of United Fishermen of Alaska and as a member of the                                                                
     Kodiak Salmon Work Group.  Most recently I attended the Board                                                              
     of Fisheries meetings in Anchorage dealing with state                                                                      
     shellfish and groundfish proposals as a Board of Fisheries                                                                 
     appointed member of the Kodiak Non-Pelagic Trawl Committee.                                                                
     I feel I have had a great deal of time an interaction with Mr.                                                             
     Virgil Umphenour on which to base my opinions regarding his                                                                
     qualifications.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Mister Umphenour consistently shows an inability to keep an                                                                
     open mind when deciding complex issues, and in fact can be                                                                 
     absolutely counted upon to bring his own strong opinions and                                                               
     preconceived ideas to important Board of Fisheries                                                                         
     deliberations and votes.  I witnessed this recently in January                                                             
     at the Board of Fisheries meetings in Kodiak.  Mister                                                                      
     Umphenour, making a point in the evening to several Board of                                                               
     Fisheries attendees, took a bag of potato chips, dumped them                                                               
     on the floor, ground them with his foot and then commented;                                                                
     "That's what a king crab looks like after a trawl runs over                                                                
     it!"  This to me is not the kind of behavior I would expect                                                                
     out of a person holding such an important position as a Board                                                              
     of Fisheries member does.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Mister Umphenour, has earned the reputation as a closed                                                                    
     minded, opinionated board member whose vote can be counted on                                                              
     any issue BEFORE the Board of Fisheries even meets.  Mister                                                                
     Umphenour is very forthright in his predisposition towards                                                                 
     several commercial gear types such as non-pelagic trawl, as                                                                
     well as aquaculture associations in Alaska.  This type of                                                                  
     attitude is inexcusable in an individual who holds so much                                                                 
     power in such an important industry to the state.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     I feel the legislature has an opportunity at this time to send                                                             
     the Governor a message that it is time to put some balance                                                                 
     back in the Board of Fisheries.  It is my sincere hope that                                                                
     Mr. Umphenour will not be confirmed to the Board of Fisheries                                                              
     and that his vacancy will give the Governor an opportunity to                                                              
     appoint an individual with commercial fish experience and                                                                  
     knowledge.  Alaska's fishing industry deserves a Board of                                                                  
     Fisheries that is unbiased, intelligent and knowledgeable of                                                               
     the intricacies involved in the crucial decisions that make,                                                               
     many coastal families lives depend on those qualities.  Quite                                                              
     frankly, Mr. Umphenour does not possess those qualities and                                                                
     his time on the Board of Fisheries should end. VIRGINIA ADAMS.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0789                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE KNOWLES testified from the Mat-Su in support of the                                                                       
confirmations of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to                                                               
the Board of Fisheries, noting that he serves on the Mat-Su Valley                                                              
Advisory Committee, Mat-Su Borough Blue Ribbon Fishery Committee,                                                               
and is the President of the Guides Association, Board of Directors                                                              
of the Cook Inlet Sport Fish Caucus.  He indicated this is the                                                                  
finest board that we've ever had and explained Alaska's statehood                                                               
was held up because the federal government felt the board which was                                                             
initially established was stacked to favor commercial fishing and                                                               
he felt it was that way for 34 years.  He further noted that the                                                                
board recently obtained fair and equal representation has developed                                                             
a sustainable fisheries program and these people have to stay                                                                   
together to complete this so our salmon stay healthy.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. KNOWLES continued, "And I bear quite a bit of complaint about                                                               
these new closures as they're being called, in reality they're                                                                  
nothing but restrictions.  They're restricting the drift fleets to                                                              
a 'corridor' (ph) on these days and the publications by the                                                                     
Department of Fish and Game says the one restriction on the 22, 23,                                                             
time frame will put 100,000 additional fish of different species up                                                             
into the northern districts and up into the Mat-Su valley.  Now                                                                 
this is 100,000 fish that are coming home that had been intercepted                                                             
and we have lost the benefit of.  Our commercial fishermen, ...                                                                 
sport fishermen, ... subsistence will be harvesting them.  We've                                                                
got runs that are serious trouble up here due to over harvesting                                                                
from commercial fishing.  We've got some salmon runs in this area                                                               
that are in dire problems, McNeil River down in the lower Cook                                                                  
Inlet, the wildlife conservation people are concerned about the low                                                             
number of returns to feed the bears in that area, we've seen a chum                                                             
salmon harvest drop from over 900,000 a year to less than 100,000                                                               
these last couple of years.  So our board has taken action to                                                                   
resolve these problems, they've developed a task force to do it.                                                                
I head the gentleman talk about the committee process of Kodiak ...                                                             
and I heard quite a lot of mumbling about the board process, after                                                              
the second day there were quite a few people that did support the                                                               
process and I do find it good and I think everybody should be                                                                   
retained on the Board of Fisheries and let's bring salmon                                                                       
management into the 21st century."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 0808                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SMALLEY asked Mr. Knowles if he supported the sport                                                              
fish guiding industry being limited to two specific areas on the                                                                
Kenai River.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KNOWLES replied that he served for 18 months on the committee                                                               
which tried to write legislation to manage guides and when the                                                                  
legislature got involved it was blown-out-of-proportion and never                                                               
got anywhere.  He said he would be willing to work with anybody                                                                 
that's going to develop a program to manage guides, however, he                                                                 
doesn't think a limited entry process would work.  He said, "We've                                                              
seen how the limited entry has failed in commercial fishermen, it's                                                             
made an elite group of elitists that think they're guaranteed a                                                                 
living by the state and we don't need that."  Mr. Knowles mentioned                                                             
he will be in Juneau next week and will be glad to meet with                                                                    
Representative Smalley.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0733                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD GRAHAM testified in support to the appointments of Dan                                                                  
Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of                                                                       
Fisheries, the Mat-Su Legislative Information office, noting that                                                               
he is a retired Fish and Wildlife Protection Officer and has                                                                    
participated in an assortment of board meetings for approximately                                                               
23 years.  He said he worked closely with Mr. Umphenour, Mr. Miller                                                             
and Mr. Coffey on issues primarily involving the enforcement of                                                                 
Alaska's fishery laws and regulations and based on his positive                                                                 
experience with the gentlemen and based on their demonstrated                                                                   
dedication he encouraged the committee to recommend to the full                                                                 
legislative body the confirmation of reappointment to the board.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRAHAM further stated, "The board recently completed a                                                                      
regulatory meeting in Soldotna in which a large portion of the Cook                                                             
Inlet salmon management plans were reviewed and updated.  Certainly                                                             
a review that was long overdue.  As a result of that meeting,                                                                   
certain groups of resource users are unhappy with the board's                                                                   
action simply because they will not be able to harvest the amount                                                               
of salmon they've been allowed to harvest in recent years.  These                                                               
groups now want to block the reappointment of certain board members                                                             
because of this. ... Anyone who has attended a board meeting knows                                                              
one thing that with very few exceptions, someone or some group will                                                             
leave the meeting unhappy ... because there is not enough fish to                                                               
satisfy everyone's needs.  This is certainly the case in Cook Inlet                                                             
as well as other areas around the state.  It is quite clear this                                                                
board . . have made great strides in attempting to accomplish a                                                                 
task required by the state constitution that is the building and                                                                
the rebuilding of our fishery resources to a sustainable level.                                                                 
Appointees that are in front of this committee for review have                                                                  
contributed much to the success of the board and again, I encourage                                                             
you to support their confirmation."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0552                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JAMES CHESBRO testified in support to the appointments of Dan                                                                   
Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of                                                                       
Fisheries, from the Mat-Su, noting he has been a resident of the                                                                
Mat-Su since 1974 and has been an avid sport fisherman for 50                                                                   
years.  He added that he is a member of the Mat-Su Mayor's Blue                                                                 
Ribbon Advisory Board, the Mat-Su State Fish and Game Advisory                                                                  
Board and a member of the 600-member Alaska Fly Fishers, but is                                                                 
speaking for himself.  Mr. Chesbro stated the present board has                                                                 
been forward thinking, professional, evenhanded, they have                                                                      
established a sustained yield fisheries program and is conservation                                                             
minded and considered the entire echo-system.  They have                                                                        
established stakeholder committees to resolve problems, therefor,                                                               
he strongly supports the present board.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0477                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BOB MARTINSON testified in opposition to the appointment of Virgil                                                              
Umphenour to the Board of Fisheries from the Mat-Su, read the                                                                   
following statement:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     His [Mr. Umphenour's] temper tantrum raised at the 1996 board                                                              
     meeting in Cordova showed him to be both biased and                                                                        
     uninformed.  His cussing and false statement in front of the                                                               
     public put the board into an executive session.  Other members                                                             
     had to calm him down.  He clearly had a conflict of interest                                                               
     toward his handling of matters concerning the Prince William                                                               
     Sound Aquaculture Corporation (PWSAC) and/or matters relating                                                              
     to the Copper River fishery.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     During his tantrum he stated that we (Cordova) fishermen were                                                              
     allowed to "seine" up all the fish at the mouth of the river.                                                              
     Purse seining has never been allowed near the Copper River.                                                                
     Also, the mouth of the Copper River is about 60 miles wide                                                                 
     across a delta with many entrances.  Mr. Umphenour's interest                                                              
     in a processing operation in Fairbanks provides him with                                                                   
     biases and personal interests when it comes to dealing with                                                                
     certain areas of the state.  Because of his lack of judgement,                                                             
     the state should consider looking elsewhere.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Mr. Umphenour denied this event occurring in 1996 and further                                                              
     explained his bias to the committee.  I now have a record that                                                             
     the board did indeed go into an executive session.  He went on                                                             
     to refer - we (Copper River gillnetters) have a bunch of                                                                   
     people who don't care about the resource.  I fished for 31                                                                 
     years on the Copper River and I'm the original permit holder,                                                              
     my father fished there for 40 years - he taught me the trade                                                               
     with my own boat when I was 11 years old.  I personally                                                                    
     witnessed the fine management of the Alaska Department of Fish                                                             
     and Game doing their job there.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Committee members I ask you to think about this, who would                                                                 
     care more about the fishery and it's well-being than one who                                                               
     depends on feeding their families, the commercial fishermen.                                                               
     We commercial fishermen have escapement levels to achieve                                                                  
     before we go fishing, it's always been under strict guidelines                                                             
     and that's just as it should be.  The Copper River commercial                                                              
     fishery is over 100 years old and only recently have the                                                                   
     upriver reaches become accessible to many users.  I don't                                                                  
     think it's proper to have a biased and unknowledgeable person                                                              
     making decisions on how the resource should be protected.                                                                  
     Mister Umphenour is purely allocative and while trying to                                                                  
     sound scientific he forgets this arena is to be left to                                                                    
     properly trained biologists.  This man makes accusations                                                                   
     toward my user groups and makes false claims about genetic                                                                 
     diversity on king salmon stocks.  I'd like to see his                                                                      
     credentials to make such statements; these statements have                                                                 
     been made to the board as well as to the public damaging our                                                               
     credibility and reputation.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Members of the committee, please stop and think about the lack                                                             
     of fairness we are facing while trying to protect our                                                                      
     livelihood and our resource.  Also, please remember no one                                                                 
     cares more about the health of the fishery than one who stakes                                                             
     their very life on it, the commercial fisherman.  It is wrong                                                              
     for political appointees to think of themselves as biologists.                                                             
     Mister Umphenour must be removed from this position.  He is                                                                
     very inappropriate.  I'm enclosing a transcript of Mr.                                                                     
     Umphenour's comments to House Resources.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0120                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KORY BLAKE testified in opposition to the reappointment of Virgil                                                               
Umphenour to the Board of Fisheries, noting he strongly disagrees                                                               
with Mr. Umphenour's reappoint to the board based on the following                                                              
concerns:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The responsibility of being a board member requires each                                                                   
     member to inform themselves with all the facts concerning each                                                             
     user group in all areas of the state.  And after the facts are                                                             
     presented each board member is supposed to make an unbiased                                                                
     and informed vote - each member should vote on the facts not                                                               
     here say.  Mister Umphenour has proven his comments during his                                                             
     term on the board that he is clearly biased toward commercial                                                              
     fishermen and hatcheries - not only in Prince William Sound                                                                
     but statewide.  Statements he has made include that Copper                                                                 
     River fishermen use their gillnets as beach seines, this                                                                   
     statement is false.  We fish drift gillnets meaning that we                                                                
     lay them out in a straight line and drift with the current.                                                                
     He [Mr. Umphenour] quoted that the Copper River is 10 feet                                                                 
     deep and that we fishermen try to kill every last fish - these                                                             
     are also false statements.  Commercial fishermen on the Copper                                                             
     River fish waters anywhere 3-300 feet in channels inside the                                                               
     Barrier Islands - our historic fishing grounds can be anywhere                                                             
     form 80-100 feet deep.  It is a delta to say it's all 10 feet                                                              
     deep, is an uninformed statement.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 99-13, SIDE A                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLAKE continued.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Salmon returned at 3, 4, and 5 year fish, this means that in                                                               
     1993, 1994, and 1995, the return escapement was large enough                                                               
     to produce record runs in 1996, 1997 and 1998.  Mister                                                                     
     Umphenour states that commercial fishermen have no respect for                                                             
     the resource, the fishermen of Cordova along with ADF&G have                                                               
     made five, ten and fifteen year plans to build a sustainable                                                               
     resource on the upper Copper River.  In the last 10 years the                                                              
     Copper River fishery has been the bright spot in the state                                                                 
     management of fisheries.  The king and the red catches have                                                                
     been on the increase, escapement has not only met, but                                                                     
     exceeded the department's goals 7 out of the last 10 years.                                                                
     If any informed person should be praised, the ADF&G ability to                                                             
     manage a resource, instead Mr. Umphenour keeps making damaging                                                             
     and false statements to the board members and the public.                                                                  
     This should not continue.  After his years on the Board of                                                                 
     Fisheries, Mr. Umphenour should have a better understanding of                                                             
     the fisheries within the state of Alaska instead he makes                                                                  
     false statements which have a lasting effect on both the board                                                             
     and the public's opinion on commercial fishermen in general.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0169                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RON WILSON testified in support to the appointments of Dan Coffey,                                                              
Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries from                                                                
the Mat-Su, noting he is a sport fisherman from the Mat-Su valley.                                                              
He said, "First of all I'd like to say I take exception to the fact                                                             
that you've allowed 18 commercial fishermen to speak and about 3                                                                
sport fishermen to speak.  I go on record as going along and                                                                    
agreeing that Dan Coffey, Grant Miller and Virgil Umphenour should                                                              
be retained on the Board, this is one of the first boards in quite                                                              
a few years that I've seen that has brought some fairness and                                                                   
integrity to the board itself. ... People like these three                                                                      
gentlemen here and also the ones that are on the board have been                                                                
more fair to the total groups that they represent and the people of                                                             
Alaska than any board that I've seen ever since I've been here.                                                                 
And I'm not a lifetime Alaskan, I've come from an area that the                                                                 
fisheries have been almost decimated because of lack of management                                                              
- this is one of the finest management plans I have ever seen and                                                               
I highly approve of what the board has been doing and they need to                                                              
stay together so they can keep up the good work they have been                                                                  
doing."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON explained the witness list doesn't indicate the                                                                 
individual is participating in sport fishing or commercial fishing.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0332                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT HALL, representing the Houston Chamber of Commerce,                                                                      
testified in support to the appointments of Dan Coffey, Virgil                                                                  
Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries from the                                                                   
Mat-Su.  He stated, "The Little Susitna River and its salmon runs                                                               
go directly through the City of Houston and are very important to                                                               
our community.  We're here to support the reappointment of all                                                                  
three members to the Board of Fisheries.  This Board of Fisheries                                                               
is a very dedicated hardworking group that clearly puts the                                                                     
resource first before it gets into allocated issues.  The very                                                                  
contentious, mixed stock intercept issues in the upper Cook Inlet                                                               
have been dealt within a professional comprehensive and public                                                                  
process.  It is impossible to please all the user groups in Cook                                                                
Inlet, probably didn't please any of the user groups.  The mixed                                                                
stock intercept or northern district fish by central district                                                                   
fishermen have devastated northern district runs.  I have the                                                                   
utmost respect for the Kenai commercial fishermen.  However, the                                                                
past intercept of northern district stocks could not continue                                                                   
without devastating and possibly a long term damaging effects of                                                                
the northern district streams.  Even with the changes that are                                                                  
made, northern district users were disappointed that a Cook Inlet                                                               
coho salmon management plan was not instituted.  Even though we                                                                 
were disappointed, we came away with a feeling that it was an                                                                   
honest and satisfied affair and an open process that took place.                                                                
This volunteer Board of Fisheries is the most balanced hard-working                                                             
Board of Fisheries since statehood, there's an effective team that                                                              
is putting together a long-term statewide sustainable fisheries                                                                 
plan and the members should be reappointed to work with the rest of                                                             
the team so that this plan may be completed."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0503                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ERIC JORDAN testified in support to the appointments of Dan Coffey,                                                             
Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries from                                                                
Sitka.  He stated, "This is the third time I've been here and ...                                                               
the last two times I didn't get to testify so I'm really glad                                                                   
you're hearing from this time.  I'm a lifelong Alaskan, I served 15                                                             
years on the Sitka Fish and Game Advisory Committee, eight as                                                                   
secretary and four as Chair, I served eight years on the advisory                                                               
panel to the North Pacific Fishery Council, my grandfather, father                                                              
and sons have all commercial fished in Alaska, I worked part-time                                                               
now for the Alaska Marine Conservation Council, I troll salmon, I                                                               
work as a sport fish guide and I'm a subsistence harvester.  I'm a                                                              
current member of the sustainable fisheries panel - advising the                                                                
Board of Fisheries on sustainable fisheries and I'm here                                                                        
representing myself.  I have worked with the board ... since 1973,                                                              
it's part of my job, I work closely with this Board of Fisheries.                                                               
I've found this board's commitment to the public process and fact                                                               
finding unparalleled.  I have participated in the subcommittee                                                                  
process and support it, I also participate and work with the                                                                    
advisory committees and I think they are complimentary.  I support                                                              
the Governor's nominations and I urge you to confirm all these                                                                  
incumbents.  This is one of the best hardest-working Board of                                                                   
Fisheries in a fine legacy of Alaska fishery boards.  Service on                                                                
the Board of Fisheries takes a great deal of work and uncommon                                                                  
dedication, Alaska's fortunate that these dedicated experienced                                                                 
members are willing to serve again.  I recommend unanimous support                                                              
from the Alaska Legislature."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0681                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
TIM SMITH, President of the Nome Fishermen's Association, testified                                                             
in opposition, on behalf of the association, to the appointments of                                                             
Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour to the Board of Fisheries from Nome.                                                               
He stated, "We've been very dissatisfied with the board's handling                                                              
of salmon management in our area, for more than a decade salmon                                                                 
returns have been severely depressed and the board has been                                                                     
ineffective in addressing this problem.  In March 1998, the board                                                               
appointed a citizen's committee to address these issues and advise                                                              
the board, and during the next year we met 24 times ... we produced                                                             
a 28-page report with a number of recommendations and we voted                                                                  
unanimously in opposition to 'Tier 2' fishing.  The board came to                                                               
Nome with a prepared agenda and despite the fact that diversely no                                                              
one wanted 'Tier 2,' the board through away our report and crammed                                                              
Alaska's first 'Tier 2' fishery down our throats.  Alaska needs a                                                               
Board of Fisheries that listens to the public and we urge you not                                                               
to reappoint Virgil Umphenour or Dan Coffey."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0771                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ERIC OSBORNE testified in opposition to the appointments of Dan                                                                 
Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries                                                             
from Nome.  He stated, "About a year ago the Board of Fisheries                                                                 
came here and a citizen's committee was formed to study 'Tier 2' -                                                              
it had good citizens, somebody who used to run the college ... and                                                              
former people who worked for ADF&G and we all formed a consensus                                                                
that 'Tier 2' was bad.  The board told us that we had real power,                                                               
that our decisions would be deferred to, but throughout the process                                                             
it was obvious that there was some pressure from outside of that                                                                
room, from the board, perhaps from ADF&G, that 'Tier 2' had to                                                                  
come.  Our group withstood enormous pressure for a year, we were                                                                
told we met more often and worked harder than any other working                                                                 
group in Alaska history.  When the board came they blew our report                                                              
off, all we were formed for was political cover, and when we didn't                                                             
afford that political cover, we were just blown away.  And I would                                                              
estimate that the citizens of Nome put forth about a thousand hours                                                             
of free work and in a time of the budget crunch, if people in the                                                               
best tradition of small-town America will come forth and work hard                                                              
and sacrifice their time, by God you ought to listen to them.  I                                                                
want these appointees thrown out the door, they've wasted my life,                                                              
and their wasting our fish."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0951                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CARL ROSIER, Representative, Alaska Outdoor Council, came forward                                                               
in support of the reappointments of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour                                                                
and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries.  He said, "I spent 30                                                               
years working for ADF&G in various capacities that range from                                                                   
commercial fisheries assistant area biologist to a final position                                                               
as commissioner of the department under Governor Hickel.  In that                                                               
time I've had the opportunity to observe and participate in a                                                                   
significant number of Board of Fisheries regulatory sessions with                                                               
a variety of board members.  The Alaska Outdoor Council is a strong                                                             
supporter of the Alaska board regulatory system, Alaska's system is                                                             
the most publicly opened process in the nation and when one views                                                               
the generally good condition of our fish and game resources, it's                                                               
a system that has served the state well.  A part of the board's                                                                 
effectiveness has been the quality and the many dedicated                                                                       
individuals that have served and what we consider to be the                                                                     
toughest regulatory appointment in the state."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSIER continued.  "Your committee has before it three very                                                                 
dedicated and capable individuals that are truly deserving of being                                                             
confirmed for another term on the Board of Fisheries.  The current                                                              
Board of Fisheries operates as a consensus building entity that has                                                             
established processes to bring opposing views to the table for                                                                  
resolution among the stakeholders at the meeting and further                                                                    
enlightenment of the board.  The stakeholders cannot reach a                                                                    
consensus, the board has the last and best information in which to                                                              
make the final decision on a given issue.  The present board leaves                                                             
no question about conservation of the resource being the priority                                                               
consideration of the decision process.  In this arena the Board of                                                              
Fisheries is in the process of developing a sustainable fisheries                                                               
policy for the state, development of the policy is occurring in                                                                 
conjunction with stakeholder groups and technical support from                                                                  
ADF&G.  This policy when completed will provide guidance for the                                                                
public, the department and future boards on decision-making to                                                                  
assure sustained yield of our fisheries.  It's a good piece of work                                                             
in progress."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSIER continued.  "Balance in regard to decisions affecting a                                                              
variety of user groups is probably the best I have observed in my                                                               
30 years association with the board process.  No one group                                                                      
dominates the board as we have observed in the past, it is our view                                                             
that the present board gives true consideration of the public                                                                   
demands, whether you are commercial, subsistence, personal use, or                                                              
sport users.  As a participant you may not like a decision, but you                                                             
have every opportunity to make your case and know that the board is                                                             
listening and fairly evaluating your view.  The three members                                                                   
before you for confirmation have all grown in their knowledge and                                                               
understanding of the great numbers of fisheries in our state, each                                                              
of these individuals have become an integral part of a well                                                                     
functioning regulatory board that is important to all Alaskans.                                                                 
The system is functioning well and the Alaska Outdoor Council urges                                                             
you to support the confirmation of Mr. Coffee, Mr. Umphenour, and                                                               
Mr. Miller to another term on the Board of Fisheries."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1169                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DEAN CURRAN testified in opposition to the reappointment of Virgil                                                              
Umphenour to the Board of Fisheries from Cordova, noting that he is                                                             
a commercial fisherman and has been a resident of Alaska since                                                                  
1951.  He said, "I oppose the appointment of Virgil Umphenour.  It                                                              
comes to my mind Virgil Umphenour processes chum salmon for the roe                                                             
and gets his fish from the Yukon [River], he doesn't like Prince                                                                
William Sound Hatchery because they produce chum salmon.  The                                                                   
timing for the return of these chum salmon is before the run gets                                                               
to the Yukon, so the Prince William Sound salmon is brought to                                                                  
market before the Yukon chum salmon.  It seems to me that Mr.                                                                   
Umphenour has a conflict of interest."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1229                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DENNY WEATHERS testified in opposition to the appointments of Dan                                                               
Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries                                                             
from Cordova.  She said, "I oppose the confirmation of any of these                                                             
three members, in fact I oppose the board all together.  The Board                                                              
of Fisheries does not listen to the public's views or concerns                                                                  
whether it be an issue concerning shellfish, bottomfish or finfish.                                                             
We have many times tried to work with the Board of Fisheries to                                                                 
save our crab fisheries in Prince William Sound which are now all                                                               
closed.  Example, we submitted emergency proposals, only to be told                                                             
by the Board of Fisheries that it was not in eminent danger, the                                                                
next year our fishery was closed - that was in 1992 and none have                                                               
been opened since.  We have no recourse when it comes to Board of                                                               
Fisheries, in fact it's been known that they have laughed at some                                                               
of the people who have gone to your meetings.  We cannot fire them                                                              
as we did not hire them.  It is the legislature that is responsible                                                             
for the Board of Fisheries and their failures.  It is you that is                                                               
supposed to take them on, it is your responsibility to make the                                                                 
laws and see that your board and commission acts as public servants                                                             
- they are supposed to work for us, not against us."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1354                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
THEA THOMAS testified in opposition to the reappointment of Virgil                                                              
Umphenour to the Board of Fisheries from Cordova, noting she is a                                                               
member of the Board of Directors of the Copper River Salmon                                                                     
Producers Association which represents over 350 commercial salmon                                                               
harvesters in Prince William Sound and on the Copper River Flats.                                                               
She said, "We recently sent a letter to all members of the                                                                      
legislature voicing our strong opposition to the reappointment of                                                               
Virgil Umphenour.  The appointments to the board must be open and                                                               
unbiased and have a commitment to proper-process and a passion for                                                              
the preservation and fair allocation of the state fisheries.  We do                                                             
not believe that Mr. Umphenour brings these qualities to the board.                                                             
We urge you not to reappoint him."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1417                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DALE BONDURANT testified in support to the appointments of Dan                                                                  
Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries                                                             
from Kenai.  He said, "I see the Kenai Borough's Assembly                                                                       
resolution of opposition as an officialized act of intimidation of                                                              
- reflects the orchestrated demonstrations of individual acts of                                                                
(indis.) during the Soldotna public hearing.  Here I address just                                                               
one resolution demand for the appointment of two commercial board                                                               
members of which one must be a Cook Inlet commercial fisherman.  I                                                              
submit that if one is a commercial fisherman from Kodiak and the                                                                
other is an upper northern district setnetter, that the central                                                                 
district sector - commercial fisherman, and the Kenai Borough                                                                   
Assembly will vent even more strongly opposition to Governor                                                                    
Knowles, the Alaska Legislature, the Board of Fisheries, and the                                                                
commissioner of the Department of Fish and Game and [the Department                                                             
of] Natural Resources.  The whole resolution is aimed to give                                                                   
discriminatory support to just one sector of the Kenai Peninsula                                                                
population of users of our (indisc.--teleconferencing) resources.                                                               
Please support the reappointment of these Board of Fisheries                                                                    
members."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1517                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
GRACE KENDELL testified in opposition to the appointments of Dan                                                                
Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries                                                             
from Kenai, noting she has commercially fished for approximately 25                                                             
years.  She said, "Governor Knowles promised to veto any bill that                                                              
mandates a specific allocation in fisheries and yet it appears to                                                               
me that's all they've done so far.  Tony Knowles has also pledged                                                               
to protect our fisheries and fishing families.  I'm a single person                                                             
and (indisc.) stand on the income from the fisheries and yet the                                                                
regulations passed by the Board of Fisheries have resulted in lost                                                              
income for Cook Inlet fishing families and local associated support                                                             
industries.  Therefore, I feel it is in the best interest to deny                                                               
the confirmation of Dan Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller.                                                              
They've already served one term - I feel their political management                                                             
of the fisheries may cause damage to the Kenai River and habitat                                                                
areas.  Please appoint more people who are concerned about local                                                                
people and the local economy.  So far we don't have anyone on the                                                               
Board of Fisheries from the local area and yet Cook Inlet appears                                                               
to be more affected than any other area.  In consideration of this                                                              
I feel we should have more say in the process instead of being                                                                  
regulated by other interests."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. KENDELL continued.  "One of the election flyers, that our                                                                   
Governor put out before he was elected the first time said, 'Our                                                                
pledge to you, Alaska's commercial fisheries will continue to be                                                                
the main stay of our economy as (indisc.) jobs decline.  We are                                                                 
committed to keep our fisheries healthy and our fisheries' families                                                             
working,' and yet he has done just the opposite.  The Board of                                                                  
Fisheries has dismantled the upper Cook Inlet Management Plan,                                                                  
paving the way for more allocations away from the commercial                                                                    
fisheries.  The fresh water tributaries, in my opinion, are                                                                     
continuing to be mismanaged and won't stand up under the pressure                                                               
too many more years, and then everyone loses.  Please do not                                                                    
confirm Dan Coffey, Umphenour and Miller, they have done enough                                                                 
damage already."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1651                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOE CONNORS, President, Kenai River Professional Guide Association,                                                             
testified in support to the appointments of Dan Coffey, Virgil                                                                  
Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries from Kenai.                                                                
He said, "There are 347 licensed Kenai River guides, 85 percent of                                                              
those are Alaska residents - compare that to 1,150 or more Cook                                                                 
Inlet limited entry permits, keep in mind please that the guides                                                                
don't fish, we take people fishing and they fish with a rod, the                                                                
corresponding 1,150 limited entry permits fish with nets.  Our                                                                  
membership of our organization is 92 percent Alaska residents, we                                                               
support adamantly the three people nominated by the Governor for                                                                
reconfirmation - they have gone out of their way to provide a                                                                   
public process, I sat through 12 days of it, they extended it by                                                                
two days ... in Soldotna, I've been to Kodiak, I intend to go to                                                                
Fairbanks.  We think that they've done an excellent job.  Now, that                                                             
doesn't mean, hearing this from the president of the guide                                                                      
association that we did well, they took away, from us one major                                                                 
activity this year and the year 2000 we will lose one of the seven                                                              
days of the week, we will not be able to fish one out of seven days                                                             
that we are allowed to now.  And in the year 2000 we will only be                                                               
allowed to take four people fishing instated of five, ... one of                                                                
those is a 20 percent reduction and the other one is about 16.5                                                                 
percent - we're not bellyaching.  I'm a little bit concerned and I                                                              
hope you're not fooled by the irresponsible emotional rhetoric that                                                             
some of my predecessors here at this site have put upon you, see                                                                
through that and see the true issue.  More fish result in the                                                                   
public gaining access to stocks that they have not been able to                                                                 
get, that means Alaskans and Americans will be able take fish."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 1788                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MARILYN KEENER testified in opposition to the appointments of Dan                                                               
Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries                                                             
from Kenai, noting that she is a lifelong Alaskan.  She said, "I                                                                
attended the Board of Fisheries hearings which were held in                                                                     
Soldotna in February of this year.  I was disappointed in the                                                                   
boards lack of regard for local and state economics as well their                                                               
circumvention of local advisory boards.  The subcommittee process                                                               
that this board came up with was a complete sham in my opinion.                                                                 
Although Mr. Miller stated tonight that the public was allowed to                                                               
comment and give testimony during this process, I witnessed                                                                     
otherwise.  These subcommittees were actually meeting at the same                                                               
time in different parts of the same room, there was no way any one                                                              
person could participate or even listen to all that was going on.                                                               
It was wrong and I'm afraid you legislators have been misled as to                                                              
the public being involved in this process."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEENER continued.  "Another example of the unprofessionalism                                                                
that was also exhibited was the incident that my 11 year old                                                                    
daughter and I witnessed - my daughter had gone to listen to the                                                                
public testimony with me, and a short break was called for.  My                                                                 
daughter whispered that she wanted me to point out who Bob Penney                                                               
was, I looked all around and finally spotted him alone in the                                                                   
parking lot, just then Dan Coffey walked up to him, they exchanged                                                              
a few words and Mr. Penney tucked a folded piece of paper into the                                                              
front shirt pocket of Mr. Coffey.  We will never know if it was a                                                               
check or a note, but the fact remains that there is a definite lack                                                             
of professionalism by this board member.  My family and I have been                                                             
hurt deeply by this board and their dismantling of the upper Cook                                                               
Inlet Management Plan.  My children a fourth generation commercial                                                              
setnet fishermen in Cook Inlet, I know our great state of Alaska                                                                
can rise above the terrible precedent our Board of Fisheries has                                                                
set - that of displacing hardworking families and disregarding                                                                  
biological data given in testimony and by our own Department of                                                                 
Fish and Game.  Please show your support of our resources, families                                                             
and fish by denying the confirmation of these three men."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1908                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PHIL SQUIRES, President of United Cook Inlet Drift Association,                                                                 
testified in opposition to the appointments of Dan Coffey, Virgil                                                               
Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries from Kenai,                                                                
noting that he has resided in Kenai for more than 20 years and is                                                               
a commercial fisherman.  He said, "They've had an enormous                                                                      
influence fishery in Cook Inlet which has not been positive for the                                                             
drift fishery here.  I think that they've had as much influence as                                                              
anyone individual or any group of individuals should have and it's                                                              
time for a change.  I hope that the backing-off little bit - I hope                                                             
that the legislators can see that the Board of Fisheries has been                                                               
formulated around a couple of issues, it appears to me statewide,                                                               
one of them is the allocation of salmon in Cook Inlet, the other is                                                             
the allocation down in False Pass.  And there has been very little                                                              
regard for the rest of the commercial fisheries in this state and                                                               
I think that's wrong.  You have to remember that authority wielded                                                              
by the Board of Fisheries is delegated from the legislature not                                                                 
from the Governor and I would urge you not to rubber stamp these                                                                
appointees but to give them some very serious scrutiny because if                                                               
anything is apparent it's that you can predict somebody's support                                                               
or lack of for these particular appointees by their side of a                                                                   
specific issue, that to me demonstrates a lack of objectivity or                                                                
perceives the lack of objectivity that their safe votes on a couple                                                             
of certain issues.  For that I would like to see the legislators                                                                
take an interest in returning an objectivity to the board and                                                                   
experience from a statewide perspective not just the two issues                                                                 
that I have outlined."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2086                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LARRY VANSKY testified in opposition to the appointments of Dan                                                                 
Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries                                                             
from Kenai.  He said, "I believe the board is very bent on creating                                                             
a fishery that's called a terminal harvest fishery, they spent two                                                              
days in Anchorage at one of the board meetings discussing terminal                                                              
harvest and they were really unable to arrive at what terminal                                                                  
harvest was.  So in the absence of that, they've created one by                                                                 
regulating us - how they regulate here in Cook Inlet.  If there's                                                               
a question of biased or unbiasedness, and terminal harvest, Virgil                                                              
Umphenour is probably situated in his position where he is the most                                                             
terminal of a commercial harvest industry.  And if that is not                                                                  
biased then I don't know what it is.  I am very much opposed to all                                                             
three of these candidates being reappointed."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 2143                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MARK DUKER testified in opposition to the appointments of Dan                                                                   
Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries                                                             
from Kenai, noting that he is a third generation commercial                                                                     
fisherman.  He asked, "Did Dan Coffey and Grant Miller enter into                                                               
a business arrangement in Anchorage, if they're still there maybe                                                               
they can answer that for us?  Another thing I would like to point                                                               
out is that Bruce Knowles is the sponsor of a fish initiative, the                                                              
same initiative that Dan Coffey wrote and the same initiative that                                                              
the court found illegal.  He also called us elitists as limited                                                                 
entry permit holders.  We're just common people trying to make a                                                                
living, and rough work.  Thank you for your support and I really                                                                
urge you not to confirm these people."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2196                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PAUL SHADURA testified in opposition to the appointments of Dan                                                                 
Coffey, Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries                                                             
from Kenai.  He said, "At present there is no represented                                                                       
commercially knowledgeable Board of Fisheries member who                                                                        
understands or has any commercial history in Cook Inlet.  There are                                                             
three members that represent lesser users of the total resource, it                                                             
is no wonder recent regulations adopted on the major traditional                                                                
user restricts that user to a lesser nonviable category.                                                                        
Prejudice, contempt, biased, dipsomania, uninformed, arrogant,                                                                  
dirty deeds done cheap, are all terms that I could use in                                                                       
describing the current Board of Fisheries reappointees.  Please,                                                                
out of fairness of decency do not reconfirm  Dan Coffey, Grant                                                                  
Miller or Virgil Umphenour.  This is from a 100-year family                                                                     
resident of the Kenai Peninsula."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 2263                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEL ERICKSON, Representing Deep Creek Charter Boat Association,                                                                 
testified in support to the appointments of Dan Coffey, Virgil                                                                  
Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries from Kenai.                                                                
He said, "We feel that they have the resource in the best interest                                                              
and are trying to put more fish in the spawning grounds and trying                                                              
to get more fish to the people.  And one other issue that's a big                                                               
concern for us and that's we need some management through the                                                                   
legislature on the growth of the guides, down in the Deep Creek                                                                 
area we have 8,000 king salmon guideline harvest limit and we got                                                               
24 new boats coming into the fishery this year and we've already                                                                
been real close to coming over that guideline harvest level.  Next                                                              
time we come up to the Board of Fisheries they'll probably have to                                                              
put restrictions on seasons and bag limits in the methods of means                                                              
on us.  We do need some help there to get some sort of a management                                                             
on the growth of the guide industry or we'll face future                                                                        
restrictions that will hurt us economically so we appreciate your                                                               
help in that manner."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 2341                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DON JOHNSON testified in support to the appointments of Dan Coffey,                                                             
Virgil Umphenour and Grant Miller to the Board of Fisheries from                                                                
Kenai.  He said, "I wanted you to understand that you're talking to                                                             
special interest groups and not the general public. ... Some of the                                                             
issues that have been flying by us here on the Umphenour roast ...                                                              
Mr. Umphenour has a really colorful personality but I don't spite                                                               
him for that - I think a lot of people react negatively to him                                                                  
because of that.  I think he's a normal thinking considerate person                                                             
and board member, probably all three members, Coffee, Miller and                                                                
Umphenour should remain and be confirmed I believe and if there is                                                              
a reason to not confirm any potential board member, it would from                                                               
some of the inflammatory statements like Mr. Umphenour said about                                                               
guides.  I am a sport fishing guide and he came out basically and                                                               
said that guides need to be regulated and they aren't regulated and                                                             
it was mentioned before that it's not really a true statement, we                                                               
are currently regulated for days, time and area, and people we can                                                              
carry, and lots of other goodies on the Kenai River.  I would just                                                              
like to make that clear, that we are (in my opinion) tremendously                                                               
regulated and he's talking basically about limited entry."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2460                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON announced Mr. Coffey's confirmation will be brought                                                             
up at the next committee hearing.  He asked it there was any                                                                    
objection to advancing the confirmations of Mr. Miller and Mr.                                                                  
Umphenour.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SMALLEY objected.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN HUDSON requested members say "Aye"; all members present                                                                
with the except Representative Smalley said "Aye".  Therefore, the                                                              
confirmations of Mr. Miller and Mr. Umphenour advanced.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2550                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Special Committee on Fisheries meeting was adjourned at 7:35 p.m.                                                               

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